I started ordering horsechestnut sometime in the fall of 2011. I was using a different brand until trying this one. I think they're both good brands but I like this one better. If you have problems with edema in your legs due to vein problems like spider veins or varicose veins then give this a try. As long as I take this twice a day, my legs feel so much better. Also try some hydrotherapy and avoid a shower head with forceful water pressure. Use a shower head that let's the water run out gently on your skin. I found that the forceful water pressure on my shower head was adding to my leg aches and circulation issues; it made them worse. When your done showering, let a little cool water or cold water run down your body or just your legs for a few minutes (not too long), or take a cool bath, OR a warm bath with epsom salt. Aloe vera gel is good for soothing leg aches due to painful varicose veins as well. You should give that a try in combination with horsechestnut and definitely research about hydrotherapy; it really does help. And good luck. I hope I've helped someone out there.